How To Pass Prop Firms Using Orderflow

Whether you're trading ICT, price action, whatever your strategy is, if you use order flow as a confirmation tool, then your win rate will improve significantly. In the candlestick charts, there is a missing piece, which is the emotions. You don't see when the buyers and sellers are getting tired. That's when order flow comes in. I mark my, let's say, a demand zone here. The market is somewhere over here, and NYSE opens, touches the zone which I had marked pre-session, and then gives me a confirmation, and then I take a trade. So, a lot of support and resistances which were here might get invalidated because the session didn't open yet. So, when I have high volume lows like this, price usually pulls back till this level. Look at this. Instead of entering right after this candle lows, you can wait for a pullback to this area. That is the idea. There's a green candle, and the delta is negative. How would you read this now? >> This bullish candle with a negative delta, if there's more sellers than buyers, why is the candle still bullish? >> That's a very important question which you asked. >> Welcome back to another episode of Strategies. Today, I'm with Soumya, an upcoming trader from India who has secured over 150,000 plus in funding and has consistently received payouts from prop firms. Soumya, welcome to the show. How are you doing? >> Hello. Thank you so much for having me. >> So, you classify yourself as someone that trades order flow. Order flow is a big subject in the space right now. A lot of the Robin's Cup traders are trading it. A lot of the best traders in the world are trading right now. And it's something I have no idea what's about. You're going to teach us how you use order flow with your current trading strategy. And um where should we start? >> First of all, I just want to say that there was a time when I didn't have order flow in my trading as well. So, uh I do understand that there's a lot of misconception about how this is very complicated, but uh you remember the time when we opened our TradingView screens for the first time? That's how we felt. So, yeah, let's get started. >> So, order flow, correct me if I'm wrong, it's like having a x-ray vision of the candlesticks right? >> Yes. >> So, what would you classify order flow as? Like what what is order flow in your opinion? >> Firstly, I want to say that when we focus on the candlestick charts, we're focusing on the price, which means we're focusing on the opening price, closing price, the highest price, and the lowest price. But, what we also need to focus on is what is actually happening inside the candle, and that's where order flow comes in. We're not just focusing on the price, we're also focusing on the buyer and seller participation, which is happening inside the candle. >> And is order flow something you use on the smaller time frame, higher time frame? What what do you How do you kind of use order flow in your strategy? >> It's an entry confirmation. >> Mhm. >> So, I enter after the footprint chart closes. I would just say whether you're trading ICT, price action, whatever your strategy is, if you use order flow as a confirmation tool, then your win rate will improve significantly. All right, before we begin, let's start with something very basic. There are two phases in the market. >> Mhm. >> The first thing is a balance, and the second thing is an imbalance. If it's a balanced market, that means the price is either consolidating or in a sideways trend. But, imbalance is when either the buyers are stronger than the sellers, which means the price is going up, or the sellers are stronger than the buyers, so the price is going down. So, it's either an uptrend or a downtrend. >> And that's where you have those explosive moves. >> Exactly. Now, you tell me, would you want to rather be in a position in a market like this or capitalize on these moves? >> I think the common answer is, of course, imbalance. >> Exactly. >> You need volatility. >> Exactly. So, it's all about supply and demand. And there's also one thing I want to say that is earlier, before we had the screens where we trade, we used to have bets, trading bets, wherein a person is betting and negotiating the price of a stock. And during that time, let's say there was a buyer X. He was like, "I want to buy the stock for, let's say, $10." >> Mhm. >> Another person comes in. He's like, "I want to buy it for $20." Another person comes in, and that person is like, "$22." And now you see the price is increasing. >> Mhm. >> But then, you also are able to see the physical cues. You see the stress in the people's faces, you see them sweating, you see them getting tired. That's when you can understand the feeling, and you're like, "Okay, now they're slowing down. Price is probably coming to a balanced level." A balanced level is where the buyer and the seller are agreeing with the price. The physical cues were very, very important signals, and you knew when to book pri- when to book losses, when to book your profits. When you're looking at a candlestick chart, what I personally thought was that I'm not able to see that pattern. In the candlestick charts, there's a missing piece, which is the emotions. You don't see when the buyers and sellers are getting tired. That's when order flow comes in. When you look at the footprint charts, you're also looking at the buyers and sellers participation. So, before we begin, I just want to say that uh are you a supply and demand trader? >> I've traded supply and demand in the past, and I know how to utilize it, especially when I'm swing trading. But, would you say you're a supply and demand trader as well with this? >> Yes, I am. But, uh while I say that, we all have a location where we take a trade from. >> Mhm. >> The most important thing is location. It can either be a supply and demand zone, a liquidity zone, whatever you do. I don't want you to change your strategy. All I'm saying is this is an additional confirmation. >> Mhm. >> So, I'll tell you how I do that. Firstly, I mark a supply or a demand zone. When I say that, all I mean is either you call it an order block. You have a resting candle. This is a resting candle, and there is an impulsive candle. And here we had another impulse candle. You see a big green candle, a rest candle, and a big green candle. This area would be a demand zone for me. So, let's say the price comes down, taps in here. If the order flow confirms, then I take a buy. Basic stuff. If I want a zone to take a sell, what I do is that there is an impulse red candle, there is a rest candle, and then again there is an impulse candle. Now I mark the zone and now I know that this can act as a major resistance for me because when the price comes here, it chances are that it goes down. Again, I'm saying chances are. This doesn't have to happen always. We will only take a trade when it gives me a confirmation. The third type of zone which I mark is impulse red candle, a resting candle with the wicks. Obviously, I'm using the wicks and an impulse green candle. This would give me a support. This is how I mark my zones. >> I was going to say for your for your supply and demand zones as well, you're using both the top wick and bottom wick of the base, and how many candlesticks do you prefer to have in the base? Is it one, the last candle before the impulse entry, you know, like SMC people do with order blocks? >> I kind of look at it like a flag, which means that I can use all the candles which are there. Just always make sure to use both the wicks. That's what I would say because wicks are extremely important. So, the biggest problem which I used to face was I used to have a support zone like this, and price came here. Now I know I want to take a buy. I take a buy from here. My stop loss gets hit. It's still inside the zone, okay? Now I'm like, "Okay, I'll take a buy again." Again, my stop loss gets hit. Okay, it's still in the zone. Let's say this is the zone. And now I don't have money anymore to take a third trade. But now the price actually goes up. The idea is your analysis was correct. You had the zone marked correct, but you didn't have a good confirmation. So, what if I give you a tool which makes you enter only over here? What happens is that order flow does not confirm here and here. It directly confirms here, which means you are not taking these losses, and you're actually making more money. >> Wow, that's impressive. So, when you're doing order these supply and demand zones that you're waiting for, these candles to approach, are these candles are these zones on the daily time frame, 4-hour time frame? What's kind of like your time frames are using in this strategy? >> I always begin with the 4-hour time frame. I mark my zones on the 4-hour time frame, and then I refine it to the 1-hour time frame, and the 15-minute, and the 5-minute. 5-minute is where I enter my trades. >> I see. So, you're not touching the daily at all, you're using it for like a somewhat of a bias. >> I mean, I'm a day trader, so I don't really care much about the daily zones. And if there is a daily zone, which is important, that's already going to be there on my 4-hour time frame. >> So, pretty much your strategy is waiting for supply and demand zones to get tapped on the 4-hour or the 1-hour. >> Yes. >> Then, use order flow on the lower time frames like 15-minute 5-minute to refine the entry. >> Yes. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> No other confluences like civil market structure or What's your What's your thoughts on support resistance? Because I know a lot of supply and demand traders don't like support resistance. >> Again, I would just say that everything is a different packaging when it comes to smart money concepts, order flow, or SMC, I think we're all talking about the same thing. It's just packaged differently. Whatever resonates with you, you can go with it. If it works for you, then that's great. Just because I'm saying that I don't use ICT, that doesn't mean that there are no profitable ICT traders. So, I think what works for you. >> Okay, so we know how to mark up your charts using supply and demand and using order flow on the smaller time frame. Now, what's next when it comes to order flow? >> Like I just mentioned, the first thing is always location. You can't take a trade just because order flow is confirming it. You need location. Where you're taking the buy or short trade is extremely important. The second thing I would say is always timing. There's no point of taking trades before or after a session. You You to trade during a session, whether you're a London trader or a US market trader, choose a session for yourself. So, what for me, what I do is I trade E-mini S&P 500. So, this is the article for it, and I trade after the NYSE opens. >> That's, yeah, hour after New York open. >> Yes. >> Very nice. >> So, I usually the idea looks something like I mark my let's say a demand zone here. The market is somewhere over here. And the NYSE opens, price comes down, mark touches the zone which I'd marked pre-session, and then gives me a confirmation and then I take a trade. That's how it usually looks like. So, a lot of support and resistances which were here might get invalidated because the session didn't open yet. So, this is the timing which is extremely important. That's a point I wanted to make. And now we actually come to the confirmation which is the footprint charts. We'll go on the charts and we'll also be seeing the practical examples, but before that um a lot of people get intimidated by looking at the charts, so I'll just break it down in simple terms. Firstly, let's say a candle looks like this. Let's say this is a green candle. This is a green colored footprint chart. It also shows the activities of the buyers and sellers inside it. Let's say there were 100 buyers, and let's say there were 200 sellers. This is a bullish candle, all right? And the bullish candle >> the same candle by the way, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> This is the footprint chart, and this is the normal candlestick chart. I'm just putting it Both of them show the same information. Let's say we have 100 buyers here, and we have 200 sellers. This is the data which we found out looking at the footprint charts. It is a green candle. It is a bullish candle, but when you actually go inside it, you see that there were more sellers. >> Yeah, how can that work if there's more sellers? Shouldn't it be red? >> It should be red. How would you read this? Like what would your thought process be? >> Well, if this is a bullish candle, um I if I didn't have this this order flow flip flipping chart, I could I couldn't I couldn't tell if there was more sellers >> Yeah. >> until I wait for the next candle to flip red. >> Now, the same example, let's say you have 500 buyers and 200 sellers. Does this make sense? >> Yes, that would make sense. >> All right. Now, if this was a red candle and uh if this was the data. >> No, that wouldn't make sense. >> Okay. Just imagine people who are watching this, they're going to probably having the same questions as you. >> Yeah, of course. >> it's okay. Yeah. >> So, if I can understand it, everybody who's watching can understand it as well. >> Yeah. Now, I'm going to introduce you to a very important concept which I use the most, which is delta. Again, I want to explain this in simple terms, so let's not go into the details of it. >> Mhm. >> We have two things. Either the delta is positive or negative. >> Oh. >> Delta is given for each candle. So, if the delta is positive, that means overall, there were more buyers inside the candle. If the delta is negative, overall, we have more of sellers. So, usually, the positive delta is in green color and the negative delta is in red color. >> Mhm. >> If there is a red candle and the delta is also red, what does that say? It just says that it's a bearish candle and we had excess of sellers than the buyers inside the candle. Right? If there's a bullish candle and the delta is positive, that just shows that it's a bullish candle and buyers were more. >> Mhm. >> But, we also do have cases where there is a red candle, but the delta is positive. Which means that price went down even though there were a lot of excess buyers. The way you read this is that there is some sort of an like mismatch, right? >> Mhm. >> Despite having excess buyers, the price was still so powerful that it could close down. Do you get what I mean? >> Mhm. Mhm. >> You see that a lot of buyers were trapped here. Despite having so many excess buyers, price still came down and closed down, which shows that these buyers were trapped. This is a very important thing which we need to remember. The second thing is there's a green candle and the delta is negative. How would you read this now? >> I'm still very confused though on how, for example, this bullish candle with a negative delta. If there's more sellers than buyers, why is the candle still bullish? >> That's a very important question which you asked. Firstly, the footprint charts only have the market orders, which means they do not showcase information about the limit orders which are present in the market. Limit orders are seen in another tool which is called the DOM or the depth of markets. >> Okay, so Mya, so we have the information now. How do you execute the delta? >> So, like I mentioned again, it's a confirmation. I have a support zone here, all right? This is a support zone and there is a bullish green candle. Usually, what we do is this is the information we have. We enter above the high of the bullish candle at a support region, stop loss below the low. What we need to do now is we need to also look at the delta for this. Let's say the delta for this is minus 1K. Don't get confused with the figures. It's a minus 1K delta. This is a red delta, which means that the sellers were more than the buyers and it's your it's not just a small number, it's 1K. We have 1K excess sellers. Despite having 1K excess sellers, the price still closed bullish, which shows how strong the bullish candle is >> Mhm. >> and all these sellers got trapped. Now we know that a lot of people's stop losses were probably also swept, like whatever you want to say, make it make it make sense to you, whatever makes you understand. The first thing is location. Second thing is a bullish green candle. The third thing is delta. That's it. Buy above the high, stop loss below the low. >> As easy as that. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> The only thing you're adding is you are also looking at the delta. If this was not there, you would have not taken the trade, so you would have not had a stoploss. >> Mhm. >> Let's just see the variation of this. This is a resistance. And um you have a red candle. And the delta is plus 2K. The way you read it is there were 2K additional buyers. Despite that, the price was so strong that it closed bearish. Now you know you also have the location. Mark my words, I'm repeating this again and again. The location is the most important thing. You can't just look at the signal at a random place and buy or sell. You need to have a reason. So you short below this, stoploss above the high. >> Mhm. >> And then you market. >> Mhm. Easy as that. >> Basic stuff. >> Okay. >> Now we'll come to my favorite parts. Again, this is very simple and very logical. The easiest way to remember this stuff is always remembering the logic and not just being like, "Oh, it has an opposite delta, so this happened." But actually thinking about how the price is you need to prioritize the price more. So read it like this. The price is always stronger than the delta. So you're going to you're not going to be like the candle is green and the delta is negative. So you're not going to be like, "These guys are stronger." >> Take a sell, yeah. >> Yeah. You're going to always prioritize the price. That is the most important thing. Now let's talk about something very um interesting. We have two shapes, which is the P shape and the B shape. All right. Let's say there is a resistance like this and we have a P shape. All right? >> Mhm. >> And then price goes down. You can tell that the price actually went up. Price went up and price made a P here, which means price was probably consolidating here. Price spent a lot of time here and then it went down. >> Mhm. >> Right? This zone is very nice because this is not just a P shape, but this actually means that price went up, did a lot of activity here. Now you know that it will go down. Or now you know here there are a lot of This acts like a strong support or resistance. So if I have a P here, then if the price goes and touches the P, I can expect it to go down. >> Yeah. >> Do you have any questions? >> Yeah, with your zones, do you like having fresh supply and demand zones with the strategy, or do you like having Is it fine if it touches twice? Like would you utilize this if there was one bounce, let's just say it impulses down, then it goes back and touches it. Maybe you take a short, but then it goes back and touches it again. Would you take a short off it after two touches? >> Um good question. Let me put it that way. The zone might have been touched many times, but we will not take a trade until the footprints are confirmed, right? So even if it has touched it before, if it hasn't confirmed here, then I'm okay with taking a trade from here. >> I see. >> But if the zone is mitigated, then obviously now I'm not going to be looking at it. >> And basically here, Soumya, does your strategy only have two types of setups? And is this based on only reversal patterns, or does this work the same with continuation? >> It works the same with uh both. Let's say you're in an uptrend, right? Now in the uptrends, you will basically be focusing on the demands more than the supplies. And in areas like that, you have more of demands anyway, right? >> Yeah. >> And in a downtrend, you're going to focus on the supplies. Basic market structure. But again, that's not something you want to pay that much attention to because you're not going to be holding your trades for that long. Even if the primary trend was something else, it doesn't matter. Because all you really need Do you need more than 1:3, 1:4? No. That's all you really need. And there might be zones, like let's say there was a supply here, a supply here. We can obviously see that supply got invalidated. Price went above. Price went above. You don't even know if order flow would have even given you a sell here or not, right? It probably wouldn't have. The idea is obviously looking at the order flow and not just the supply and demand. Not every supply and demand will be respected. We only want to be a part of those zones which are respected, and the best way to go about it is using footprint charts as a confirmation. Now, the way we spoke about B shape, I'm talking about B shape. We have a support region here. Price goes down, down, down. Price is doing something like this. It created a B. Price spent a lot of time on the support region. Price went up. The same stuff now we're also going to see on our charts. Whenever we have a footprint chart like this on a support region and inside the footprint chart, I will show that to you in the chart, we see a B shape, something like this. This is a signal for me to buy. I can buy above the footprint chart. Stop loss below the low. Similarly, just the opposite. We'll also summarize this so that we don't forget it. We have a resistance. There's a footprint chart. It creates a P. Now you short. SL above the high. TP. >> And how are you targeting here? What what are you using for like your key levels for TP? Are you targeting like uh uh next demand zone or a next area of like support or resistance or you just having like a structure 20 30 ticks? >> I would just say that always keep a minimum of 1:1. If you're starting out with this, I would obviously say that you need to have fixed RR. Book a 1:2 in every trade, no matter what. Don't complicate it more than this. But, how I go about it now is on the 5-minute time frame, I mark whatever roadblocks I have. Let's say there is I'm in a short trade and there is a demand zone on the 5-minute time frame. Now, I know that price can go there and it can reverse from there. I just like to book it. Whether it's 1:3 hour away or 1:5 hour away, I'm confident enough now in my strategy that I'm able to hold it for that long. But when you start with it, I would say stick with the 1:2 consistently. >> I see. Very cool. >> When you look at the P shape, again, it's not just a P shape. You also know why this is a short signal because the price went and spent a lot of time here, right? And then the price went down. That shows that this area is where a lot of buyers and sellers were basically fighting. Let's just conclude everything that we've learned so far. The first case for me to buy or sell is having a green candle with a big negative delta. Let's say minus 1K delta at a support region. This is a green candle. This would give me a signal to >> Take a long, take a buy. >> Yes, take a buy. Now, basic stuff. The opposite of this would be a red candle like this. And a red candle have, let's say, plus 1K green delta. >> Take a short or take a sell position. >> Yes, this would be a signal to take a sell position. The third and the fourth one were basically having a support region with a green candle and inside the green you have a B. We'll see that in detail. This is a signal for you to take a buy. >> Yep. >> This is for us to take a buy. Yes. And the opposite of this would be a resistance region and a red colored footprint chart and inside that we have a P shape. This will be for us to take a sell. These are the only four cases I use to take my trades, pretty much. >> And this looks very simple, but I love to see how it looks technically on the charts. >> Yes. Uh, I know that this was very theoretical, but if we do not understand this clearly, the chart looks complicated. But after this, it's going to be easy. >> Okay, cool. Let's get to it. >> Okay, so like you can see on the screen, this is a normal candlestick chart. This is what we keep doing the entire time. Now, when I just zoom in here, by the way, this platform is Artist. You need to have a separate order flow software to use this. You have a lot of uh softwares in the market, but this one is the best one according to me. And I've tried out various order flow softwares. I used to have this question that you do have footprint charts in TradingView, but you're not supposed to use that because it's not that accurate because um whenever you look at the TradingView data, the footprint charts, they look different from the one which we use because that one is based on the candles. >> Mhm. >> It only talks about the orders inside a candle, but what we want to focus on is basically the price point. We want to know what were the orders which took place in a particular price level and not a particular candle. Now, when I just zoom the chart in, you can just see these. These are the footprint charts, basically. And when I zoom it out, they just become candles. When I actually zoom into this, um it might look a little bit difficult, but I'll just break it down to you in simple terms. You see a lot of numbers here. >> Mhm. >> We don't really care much about the numbers, but all you need to know is basically the seller and buyer. The first numbers are always the sellers. And we're obviously talking at one price point. Sellers buyers sellers buyers. >> Even with a bearish candle? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> All the candles. This is delta which we spoke about. You see green delta, you see red delta. We'll just connect everything that we learned before to this. The exact same thing which we were doing on the notes app, it's the same thing. Again, you can just see this. Let's just quickly revise it. It's a green candle. >> Mhm. >> The delta is also green. >> Mhm. >> Which means there were 304 buyers more than the sellers. And here you can see it's a red candle. And the delta is minus, which means we had 407 more sellers than the buyers. That's exactly how you see. And this is the interesting part which we were talking about. This is a green candle. But the delta is negative. Which means that there were 750 more sellers than the buyers in this. Despite that, the price still closed above. It was still bullish. And you see what happened after that. >> And nice push up, yeah. >> Exactly. The idea was we should check the location of this and see let's say this is a demand region. We'll see more examples. In the demand region, I got a green candle. Which is a bullish candle with negative delta. Which means a lot of sellers were trapped short. I buy above the high. Stop loss below the low. Now let's talk about the P and B shapes which we spoke about. The blue part inside that's what we see for the shape. I mean it's obviously a little bit subjective. But I'll show you perfectly. Now look at this. There is no volume here. >> Yeah. >> But here there's volume. >> Okay, that's a B. >> That's a B. >> Yep. >> And you see what happened? Okay, one more thing. When I actually zoom out, you can see that this is the wick, right? >> Mhm. >> And when I zoom it in, you can see that there's no body here. Which means this is the wick part. Got that? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Now, I just have the B shape here. Let's say this was a support region. And then I have a B shape here. Is it a signal for me to buy? >> Perfect signal, really? >> Yeah. We won't always have the delta confluence. So these are the four cases how we enter the trade. Another thing, a lot of volume was here. And I told you that P and B shapes usually act like support and resistances. And you see how this candle came tapped exactly where the high volume node started. And it pushed right from there. You can keep a limit order here near this area. >> Mhm. That makes a little bit of sense on B shapes. Can you show us what a a P shape looks like? >> Let's look for a P shape now. Again, it doesn't really have to be perfect. >> And so, I guess what's more popular? Will a B shape override a bullish candle with uh bullish delta? >> I mean, yes. The reason why we use the P and B shape is because when you keep a limit order instead of market order, obviously you get a higher RR. So, when I have high volume lows like this, price usually pulls back till this level. Look at this. >> Mhm. >> Instead of entering right after this candle lows, you can wait for a pullback to this area. >> Mhm. >> That is the idea. I don't use timing base chart. I use a range bar, which means that each candle closes after a movement of 20 R. Now, that is what I use for E-mini S&P 500. You should change it according to what pair you're trading, according to how much it moves. I would say for gold, you should use 50 R because go- gold moves obviously more than ES. And for ES, you should use 20 R. I mean, I've been experimenting between 20, 21, 25, and this is what works the best for me like. >> So, why do you prefer range charts over time charts? >> Well, usually whenever the NYC opens, that's when the market is more volatile. And until then, prices usually consolidating. And I I think it's not really fair for us to judge it based on that. In fact, we need to have something uniform because obviously the 5-minute candle, once the US market opens, it's a much bigger candle as compared to before. I think this is very uniform, and uh we basically the noise is canceled because everything looks the same. >> And so, you're only trading range charts now. You don't touch time charts anymore. >> The only times when I use the time chart is when I have to mark my zones. For that, I do use my 4-hour chart, 1-hour chart, and 15-minute. >> Okay, that makes sense. >> I show you how you actually use the strategy now. Let's look at a short example and a long example. This is the 1-hour time frame on E-mini S&P 500, not the range, but this is a normal time chart. And you remember we spoke about how I mark my supply and demand zones, impulse rest impulse. So, here you can see that impulse down move, the candles were resting, and then again a down move. Obviously, this particular candle this acts as a strong zone, and the price can go down down through there. Now, I just mark the same zone. Let's see how the order flow look like. This is the exact zone, and we have this particular order flow candle here. It's a red candle, but the delta is green. >> Yep. >> Which means that I can take a short trade. Even though there's no PRB shape, but the reason why I'm okay with this is because firstly, it's a good zone, and secondly, the delta is also supporting us. Enter here, stop loss above the eye, and then probably target 1:1, 1:2, or the next supply or demand area. >> I know a lot of supply and demand traders usually like putting a heavier SL like above their zone. >> Yeah. >> With order flow, you're not going to put it above your your supply or demand zone. >> The reason why we trust this footprint chart is because we know that this is going to be supported, and for me, this trade gets invalidated if the price does not respect this volume area and then it goes above it. There's no point holding it after that. You can see what happened right after that. You can either enter right after this, a market order, stop loss above the eye, and the price did go down. >> Like zero drawdown, too. >> Exactly. Zero drawdown. Or even I mean, if you entered here, this would have been a little bit of drawdown, but that's okay. The other way to use it is to place a limit order in the volume areas. Now, I'll also tell you something. The price is going down, down, down. Everything's good. Here, we see a green candle. And the delta is red. This means that the sellers are now getting trapped. And you see right after that the price went up. You could have either tail or book your profits once you see something like this. That's also a way I mean you can hold the trade for until when you see a signal like this. >> Yeah, I'm going to start using this in my in my strategy as well. >> See, this is literally just a tool. >> helps it just helps with your confluence. >> Yeah. I mean, no matter what you trade, whether you trade liquidity or however you mark your zones, just use it as an additional confluence. And usually what happens is that price obviously travels from supply to demand. And here we can see that there was a there was a demand here. Which is why price reacted like this. And then you can again take a counter trend trade now. And buy above the high. Stop loss below the low. >> And target that next zone. >> Next zone. >> Which it did exactly that. So, you're pretty much focusing on just the delta and shapes, right? When you're looking at this stuff, right? >> Okay, so I'll show you an example with the shape and not delta. >> Okay. But like you don't need to like what I'm saying is like it looks very complicated, right? But the main things you're focusing on is just like when it hits your zone, you're just looking for a if it hits a supply zone, you're looking for a bearish candle with a positive delta. If it hits a demand zone, you're looking for a bullish candle with a negative delta or in the P&B shape. >> Yeah. >> That's it. >> There are many more tools, but I don't want to complicate it. Obviously, even on TradingView, we have so many indicators, but we hardly use them. All right. So, I'm marking the zone. There's an impulse down move. There's a red candle here and then an impulse up move. Which means that this area can act as a support now. You can see at the exact area we had this candle at the support. I I wouldn't really care much about this candle because it doesn't look like a convincing B to me. I mean, so this is not a signal for me. I would wait for another confirmation or you could have entered about this because the delta is also negative. >> Yeah. >> What I did was there's a green candle here with a good B shape. Right? This is a B shape pretty much. >> Yeah. >> The delta is green, too. But I have a B shape, so I can enter. Buy above the high, stop loss below the low. Target the next supply and demand. And imagine you entered at 6847, the price went up to 6862. >> Do you notice when you're taking these trades with order flow that you don't really go into drawdown? >> We don't because we're entering exactly at that particular area. Usually when you do, you know, when you trade using another strategy, you're entering either early inside the street, what I would do was I would obviously break even it after one to one because usually you see that these volumes are respected. >> Mhm. >> And the price comes down, touches this volume area, goes up, touches the volume, goes up, volume. So, the idea is that if you see the volume getting disrespected, you can exit your trade. But I like to keep stuff simple. I just book a one to two, one to three, and I'm done. >> Easy as that. And would a A+ setup using order flow be B shape with delta correlating? >> That would be the best setup and the win rate would be like about 85% if you get a setup like that. >> Oh, wow. >> Um whenever I have the delta as well as the shape, what I do is I'm comfortable to book like one to fives. >> But you still can take it whether it's just uh delta or a shape as well. >> Yes, because we don't get a perfect setup every day. And I'm okay with this, too. >> Wow. And how often are you seeing those A+ setups where the shape and the delta is following with your with your confluences? >> That happens at least once a week. >> Once a week, okay. >> Yeah, at least. I mean, it can be more, too. Um but P&B shape, you get this every single day. >> And how many trades do you find yourself taking per week as a day trader? >> Honestly, I would say three. >> Three? >> Yeah. >> Okay, so very few. >> I mean, if you just take one trade in a day for like three days, then you want to protect your gains as well. And what I usually do is on the days where we have news, I avoid trading like until the news is over. And the price, you mark your supply and demand zones, and exactly at the news level, the price pumps up. Everybody thinks it's going to go up after the news release, but it actually hits your zone and then starts coming down. >> Yeah, I'm really excited I learned about order flow. Like, I really want to The thing I think I like most about this is how clean the entry is. Like, it seems like there's no drawdown, and if you do get into drawdown, it means the trade's invalidated, you know? >> Yep. >> All right, guys, that is a wrap for this episode. If you did enjoy this episode, be sure to leave a like and subscribe. Also, if you want to see a part two with Somya, drop a comment below on what you'd like to learn more of. Somya, thank you for coming on the show today. >> Thank you so much for having me. This was a really fun conversation. >> It was. It was, it really was. And if you do want to check out her documentary that we filmed, you can see it somewhere right here. We'll link it up.